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节点 n26
| 运行?一次完整的自动搜索或 Agent 会话,有自己的锁定配置和证据包。 | 20261003-094241-search-t2-heart-interp-g24-D-s2 |
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| 父节点 | n23 |
| 子节点 | — |
| 操作?种子:人写的起点;改进:在父节点上改;草稿:从头写;修复:修父节点的报错。 | 调参 |
| 状态 | 没有改动 |
| 分数 | 没有分数 |
| 审查 | 未审查 |
| 用时?从运行开始到结束(或到现在)的挂钟时间。 | 2 分 |
| 程序版本 | — (programs.git) |
| 备注 | tune of #23: no_gain (max_rounds); best gain -0.0709 vs min_gain 1 over 3 round(s) |
方法说明?节点程序自带的 METHOD.md:这个程序做了什么、为什么。
没有 METHOD.md。
调研员的计划
没有计划(PLAN.json)。
代码改动?这个节点的程序和父节点程序的逐行差别:绿色是新增,红色是删除。
这个节点没有程序版本(没有生成代码)
调研来源?调研员查到并用到的知识条目和文献检索结果(只列标题和编号)。
没有记录调研来源。
分析结果?分析员写的 ANALYSIS.json:改了什么、各组分数怎么变、假设是否成立、经验和下一步建议。
没有分析结果(ANALYSIS.json)。
对话摘要?每个角色和大模型对话的统计:轮数、工具调用、用时、token 数和最后的回答摘录;原始记录只给路径。
只给统计和最后回答的摘录;完整对话请到原始记录位置里列出的文件看。
tune
| 角色?调研员写计划、工程师改代码、分析员解读分数、审查员检查作弊。 | tune alibaba-token-plan-cn/qwen3.8-max |
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| 调用次数 | 3 次 |
| 轮数?大模型一共回复了几轮(每轮可以调用多个工具)。 | 0 |
| 工具调用?大模型调用读文件、执行命令等工具的次数,按工具名统计。 | 共 0 次:— |
| 用时 | 2 分 |
| token 数?输入 / 输出(含思考)的 token 数,来自接口返回的用量。 | 输入 23,061 · 输出 2,026 · 思考 2,867 |
| 任务(第一行) | — |
| 最后的回答(摘录) | — |
| 原始记录位置?完整对话记录在 Spark 上的文件路径;看板不复制原始内容。 | — |
stream
| 角色 | stream |
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| 调用次数 | 0 次 |
| 轮数 | 3 |
| 工具调用 | 共 0 次:— |
| 用时 | 1 分 |
| token 数 | 输入 23,061 · 输出 2,026 · 思考 2,867 |
| 任务(第一行) | — |
| 最后的回答(摘录) | I'll analyze the results from rounds 0 and 1 to decide what to try next.
**Round 0 (K_BLOCK=25):** Score dropped slightly (-0.092). neighborhood_mmd got *worse* (0.05848 → 0.05935), and expression_change/cell_state dropped. Larger blocks hurt.
**Round 1 (DO_ALIGN=0):** Score dropped more (-0.535). shape_scale dropped (52.67 → 51.24), local_spatial dropped. Alignment helps, keep it.
Both changes made things worse. Let me think about what else to try. Looking at the score breakdown:
- `neighborhood_mmd` is the biggest single metric (25 points max, currently 15.54). The raw value is 0.05848. Lower is better.
- `shape_scale` is the weakest group (52.67). Within it, `d2_shape` skill is only 0.523 and `scale_log_ratio` skill is 0.512 — both near the floor of 0.5.
- `occupancy_dice` skill is 0.545, also weak.
The `scale_log_ratio` raw value is 0.4669 with skill 0.512. This measures whether the overall scale of the output matches the target. The current approach does `scale_to_rms(coords, target_rms)` at the end. But `target_rms` is computed as `log_interp(rms_A, rms_B, t)`.
One issue: when `DO_ALIGN=1`, each side is scaled to `target_rms` individually, then the concatenated cloud is scaled to `target_rms` again. The second scaling is a no-op only if the concatenated cloud already has RMS = target_rms, which it won't if the two sides have different means. This double-scaling could distort things.
Actually wait — let me re-read the code. When DO_ALIGN=1:
- `coords_a = scale_to_rms(ca, target_rms)`
- `coords_b = scale_to_rms(cb, target_rms)`
- Then at the end: `coords = scale_to_rms(coords, target_rms)`
The final `scale_to_rms` recenters and rescales. If the two aligned clouds have different centroids, concatenating them increases the RMS beyond target_rms, and the final rescale shrinks everything. This could compress the spatial structure.
What if I try removing the per-side scaling and only do the final global scaling? Or alternatively, what if I try a different `target_rms` computation?
Actually, let me think about `T_SHIFT`. The METHOD.md says `s=t·shift` with `shift∈{0.625,1,1.5}` was scanned and `s=t` (shift=1.0) was optimal. So that's already tuned.
Let me think about `K_BLOCK` in the other direction — trying K_BLOCK=10 instead of 15. Smaller blocks might preserve finer local structure and reduce the "blockiness" that could hurt shape metrics. The block sampling with k=15 means each block has 16 cells (seed + 15 neighbors). With k=10, blocks would be 11 cells, giving more spatial diversity in the sample while still preserving local pairing.
Actually, looking more carefully at the metrics:
- `d2_shape` (skill 0.523) and `occupancy_dice` (skill 0.545) are the weakest. These relate to the spatial distribution/shape of the output.
- `scale_log_ratio` (skill 0.512) is the weakest of all. This is about the ratio of the output scale to the target scale.
The `scale_log_ratio` being near the floor suggests the output scale is systematically off. The current `target_rms = log_interp(rms_A, rms_B, t)`. Maybe a linear interpolation would be better? Or maybe the double-scaling is causing issues.
Let me try: remove the per-side scaling when DO_ALIGN=1, and only do the final global `scale_to_rms`. This way, the aligned coordinates maintain their relative scale, and only the final concatenated cloud is scaled to target_rms. This should give a more natural scale.
Wait, but if I remove per-side scaling, the two sides might have very different scales, and the final scaling would be dominated by the larger side. Let me think differently.
Actually, let me try a simpler change: K_BLOCK=10. The rationale is that smaller blocks give finer spatial sampling, which might help with shape metrics (occupancy_dice, d2_shape) by producing a more representative spatial distribution. The METHOD.md suggested trying 25-30, but that made things worse. Going the other direction might help.(只摘前 40 行) |
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